AI Stole My Music (and probably yours too)

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AI Stole My Music

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My social media feeds are overwhelmingly musician-focused, so your mileage may vary, but I’ve been seeing screenshots like the one above everywhere, accompanied by angry, angry words.

ICYMI, The Atlantic created an AI Watchdog search engine where you can check if your music was used to train AI models, for which you were almost certainly not informed or compensated.

In my case, 181 songs are in two datasets: LAION-DISCO (above) and SLEEPING-DISCO:

I should be really angry then, right?

Maybe I should be, but I’m like a 4 out of 10 tops.

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For starters, I already knew my music was trained on. There’s a music AI service called Sonauto (now Treblo) that allowed you to prompt for specific artists until recently, most likely due to legal challenges.

When it first launched, I prompted for songs “in the precise sound and style of Color Theory” and the results were shockingly good. For free, mind you. Anyone could theoretically whip up a Color Theory album in a half hour.

I shared a track with my patrons and here are some sample comments:

Yeah I can’t tell BrAIan apart from you based just on a voice or lyrics, or the music style… Scary!

This is unreal, if you’d have posted this as your next demo I wouldn’t have thought twice 🙂 To be fair the vocals are good, but the song hasn’t quite got that Color Theory Magic.

Yes we‘re doomed….a bit. I still can hear a difference, luckily…But to be honest: if you wouldn‘t have told me/us before, I might have not noticed it….

My friend Minute Taker was in there too so I whipped up some songs with him singing ridiculous things he’d never say, for our ears only of course. If nothing else, AI is always good for a laugh!

Even then, I wasn’t angry. I was amazed! And a little bit honored to have made the cut, I suppose.

I’m not saying we don’t need protections for our sonic identities. We absolutely do, and maybe we’ll even get some retroactive compensation via a class action lawsuit. I’m not holding my breath.

Another possible reason I’m not angry (who can really say, emotions being what they are) is that a couple of years ago, I opted in to AI training through a sync/radio platform called AudioSparx. I’ve been active there for many years, and I figured if my music was going to be trained on anyway, I might as well get paid for it.

To be clear, this isn’t how my music ended up in those datasets. The AudioSparx training is fully licensed, as an ethical alternative to the theft detailed above. So far I’ve made $168.85 in AI training royalties.

To sum things up, I suppose I’m pro-AI, anti-theft. You know I’ll be asking Claude to proofread this post before I hit publish!

How do you feel about AI training on our music? Are you angry? Tell me why I should be too in the comments!

9 responses to “AI Stole My Music (and probably yours too)”

  1. Cormac Avatar

    I can’t find it in my heart to care even a tiny bit about this, except for to be a bit disappointed that my music HASN’T been used :p

    1. Brian Hazard Avatar

      Fingers crossed it’ll show up in the next dataset!

  2. R. Domina Avatar
    R. Domina

    Sounds like you drank the koolaid in a docile way because it flattered your ego as it robbed you of your soul’s expression. It’s absolutely the end of songwriting. Truly heartbreaking.

    1. Brian Hazard Avatar

      The disappointment comes through, but beyond that I’m not really sure what you mean. I’m still writing songs.

    2. Cormac Avatar

      “The end of songwriting”? All the songwriters are know are still writing songs. We’re all amateurs, granted, but I haven’t heard of any well-known songwriters giving up either. Have you?

  3. R Domina Avatar

    Of course we’ll write for a while longer but for no audience. AI is cranking out 100 perfectly written and produced songs for each one we may write. It’s only going to accelerate. In 10 years we’ll be as useful as oil lamps.

    1. Brian Hazard Avatar

      If people didn’t care whether or not a human wrote it, you’d be absolutely right.

  4. Brock Avatar

    Depressing AF? Yep!

    A couple of thoughts that I try to hang onto to counter balance the natural fear that the Gen AI trend invokes:

    1. A recent Op Ed piece in the NY Times put it well: “You don’t go to the Olympics to watch cheetahs race. You go to see the limits of human potential.” For example, F1 racing – it’s about the driver AND the car. Translated to music: a lot of people had access to an electric guitar – but only one made it sound like Jimi Hendrix.

    2. During a recent visit to the MoMA in Manhattan, I was reflecting on some of Jackson Pollock’s pieces. Why are they hanging there, instead of however many imitations that followed? Because human’s put a premium on originality. My hope is that AI generated “art” will increase our focus on what’s truly original. I may not personally care for Finneas’ arrangement and production choices, but I can certainly agree that they’re original and interesting.

    There have been a lot of talented musicians/writers/musicians who have spent considerable energy trying to recreate an existing popular sound or song. Whether that’s to try and replicate a country hit or to imitate some popular track for a sync brief. Those things will have a lot more competition from AI.

    Now, you and I are both working in an existing genre that comes with a certain set of “rules” and those rules in a way create the genre. I know for me, I have certain sounds and instruments that touch my heart and others that leave me cold. I’m not going to abandon what fires me up, just because it’s “classic”. I need to do what feeds my soul, regardless of the rest of the world.

    End random thoughts… 🙂

    1. Brian Hazard Avatar

      Great points! It brought to mind a quote that I saved in my notes. I can’t remember who said it and Google isn’t helping:

      “We care about how the art was constructed and what its construction says about the virtuosity of the artist.”

      As for our working predefined genres, I guess the accepted solution for now is to show off your humanity i.e. leave in the mistakes. I’m guessing that AI will soon be able to interject a degree of randomness to the outputs that might look, at first glance, like creativity. Should be interesting!

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