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What Artists Should Know About Stereofame

I’ve written “what artists should know” articles on Last.fm, Jango, and thesixtyone, but after months of casual participation, I can’t seem to get anywhere on Stereofame. Rather than bore you with my less than noteworthy experience, I turned to the undisputed kings of the site, Temple Scene. Philippe Rose and Ric Levy make phenomenal electronica-tinged pop, but we all know it takes more than great music to get heard. Ric shares his experience and advice below.

Stereofame

BRIAN: Ric, congratulations on the imminent release of your debut album! The fact that you don’t have a full-length out yet makes your success on Stereofame all the more remarkable. Could you briefly explain how the site works and how you got started there?

RIC: The first we knew of the site was a small advert on TuneCore, the service we use to get our songs on iTunes. We’d just released our first EPs and we wanted to have a presence on every site we could find. Most of them turned out to be pretty pointless – full of bands but no listeners – but Stereofame have managed to build a genuine community of music lovers.

When we first joined, the site didn’t really seem to know what it was, but as time has gone on, it has become less of a competition and more of a musical social network. In terms of the competition it really has two running in parallel. You get points for your networking – talking to people, listening to their music, making comments – which you can then bid eBay-style on prizes. And for artists they have a “Stereofame ranking” which you cannot affect directly, but seems to be based on some sort of secret formula regarding how many people have been visiting your profile and listening to your music and how much they like it.

BRIAN: You’ve been ranked #1 since my first visit to the site seven months ago. I imagine at this point it’s self-sustaining, but how many hours a week were you putting into it initially?

RIC: I couldn’t put an exact figure on it, but we were initially putting quite a lot of effort into music sites generally. We’ve never specifically tried to compete (we never thought we would win anything!) but we’ve identified the sites that are full of genuine music lovers and used them as a way to try and connect with our listeners. As it turns out, I think this approach actually helped us do well on Stereofame, as it is set up to reward ‘good citizens’ who take part in the community.

BRIAN: I first heard about Stereofame at lunch with David Gonzalez of The Long Division. He showed me the Subway gift card he bought with his points. It was nice to see someone’s music actually put food on the table! What have you bought with your points?

RIC: I hope he treated you to a sub, then! We’ve been incredibly lucky with Stereofame. As well as Artist of the Year, we managed to win the laptop on which I am typing this and a PlayStation 3 (which only slowed the album down by a couple of weeks…)

BRIAN: It seems that the name of the game is to get labels to sign you. Did you approach the labels directly? If so, how did you decide which labels to target?

RIC: For listeners, the site works as a kind of “fantasy label” competition – they sign artists, and the better their signings do, the more points they make. Artists also get points when they are signed.

I don’t think we’ve ever sent a message asking anyone to sign us. It’s already set up in such a way that listeners will encourage their friends to listen to and sign “their” artists, so the best way to expand your presence is just to be friendly and hopefully people will want to support you.

BRIAN: Have you done any promotion off-site to help you get ahead in the game?

RIC: Again, not really. If anything interesting has happened on the site we talk about it on our blog, but it’s not the kind of site where you need to whip up people to go and vote for you. We just concentrate on having a good relationship with listeners and other artists on the site.

BRIAN: What else can artists new to the site do to boost their ranking and maximize their exposure?

RIC: Obviously, we were quite lucky to join early when there were fewer bands and you were pretty much guaranteed to get heard. So I would guess that for a new band it’s going to be necessary to try and get people to listen. The best way is just to be friendly, and don’t make people feel like you are spamming them. The most important thing is that once you’ve got a few listeners, you mustn’t just ignore them and start pestering new people. Build a relationship with them. If they like you, they will put your songs in pride of place on their profiles and they will be your biggest advocates on the site.

BRIAN: Recently Stereofame added an album store, allowing users to buy songs with their points. Have you seen any sales? If so, have the proceeds reached you in the form of cold hard cash?

RIC: We’ve put some of our songs up for sale there, but we haven’t really seen much back from that. I think most people just go straight to iTunes or whatever they generally use, rather than signing up to a relatively small site just to buy songs. But they’ve only just activated the feature, and we’ve yet to see what kind of promotion they put into song sales on the site.

BRIAN: Looking at your statistics on your Stereofame page, I see a huge spike in points on June 2. What caused it?

RIC: I think it’s to do with our VIP membership. We’ve joined their paid subscription which allows us to sell songs on the site, and it also includes points bonuses, which I think you get once a month, hence the spike. Again, the VIP membership is a brand new addition to the site and I don’t know how it will pan out, but we’ve done so well out of the site that we feel like we should get involved!

BRIAN: I tried VIP membership for a couple months, and didn’t notice much of a bump. I guess that’s fair though. Bands shouldn’t be able to buy a good ranking.

RIC: I don’t think it affects your musical ranking – it just means you get extra points to bid on prizes.

BRIAN: Has your success on the site helped you beyond the prizes and exposure? Any label or publisher interest as a result?

RIC: No major industry contacts, but we get a respectable amount of web traffic from Stereofame. Also, whenever a label signs us we send a polite message thanking them and asking them to join the mailing list, and we certainly get more sign-ups this way.

BRIAN: Thanks for taking the time Ric! I know how incredibly busy you are with putting the final touches on the album. I look forward to buying my copy!

RIC: You’re welcome – thanks very much!

Be sure to visit Temple Scene on Stereofame and their official site.

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18 Comments

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    Mike
    June 30, 2009 at 5:51 pm

    Nice interview — thanks to both Brian and Ric for sharing your experiences!

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    Mike
    June 30, 2009 at 9:51 am

    Nice interview — thanks to both Brian and Ric for sharing your experiences!

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    Brian Hazard
    July 17, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I checked in at Stereofame today for the first time after posting this article, and was delighted to find I’d been signed to a dozen new labels, I had a bunch of new friends, and someone purchased my album from the artist store. My ranking went from somewhere in the 300’s to 106, and I’ve got enough points to buy a few Subway gift cards. Perhaps the best way to succeed on the site is to write about it. 😉

    http://www.stereofame.com/colortheory

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    Brian Hazard
    July 17, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I checked in at Stereofame today for the first time after posting this article, and was delighted to find I’d been signed to a dozen new labels, I had a bunch of new friends, and someone purchased my album from the artist store. My ranking went from somewhere in the 300’s to 106, and I’ve got enough points to buy a few Subway gift cards. Perhaps the best way to succeed on the site is to write about it. 😉

    http://www.stereofame.com/colortheory

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    justin
    January 23, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    A user migrating from t61 here =) Is there any advantage to uploading one song at a time on this new site, or should I just put them all up at once?

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    justin
    January 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    A user migrating from t61 here =) Is there any advantage to uploading one song at a time on this new site, or should I just put them all up at once?

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    Brian Hazard
    January 23, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    I’ve only been doing a quick check-in there once a week, so I haven’t really been keeping up, but I’d say post them all at once. Listeners at Stereofame make their decisions based on the act as a whole, rather than individual songs like on t61.

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    Brian Hazard
    January 23, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    I’ve only been doing a quick check-in there once a week, so I haven’t really been keeping up, but I’d say post them all at once. Listeners at Stereofame make their decisions based on the act as a whole, rather than individual songs like on t61.

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    rritz
    May 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    I only signed up two days ago, but from what I can see so far, most listeners go all the way and listen to all five songs.

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    rritz
    May 3, 2010 at 6:38 am

    I only signed up two days ago, but from what I can see so far, most listeners go all the way and listen to all five songs.

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    Brian Hazard
    May 4, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Please keep up posted! I’m not even checking in weekly anymore, but maybe I should since t61 is for all intents and purposes gone.

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    Brian Hazard
    May 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    Please keep up posted! I’m not even checking in weekly anymore, but maybe I should since t61 is for all intents and purposes gone.

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    Severin Bozung
    May 5, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Good interview!

    I’ve been getting a lot of help from your blog lately :]

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      Brian Hazard
      May 5, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      Thanks Severin! I’d love to hear what kind of luck you have on Stereofame. I really like your music and web site! It’s hard to get enough of swinging monkies. 😉

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    Severin Bozung
    May 5, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Good interview!

    I’ve been getting a lot of help from your blog lately :]

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      Brian Hazard
      May 5, 2010 at 9:20 pm

      Thanks Severin! I’d love to hear what kind of luck you have on Stereofame. I really like your music and web site! It’s hard to get enough of swinging monkies. 😉

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    Rritz
    September 8, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Stereofame has changed a little in the past few weeks, and many artists are leaving. They feel, they have been let down by SF, because now Major Label Artists have found their way into the site. Of the four spotlights – artist of the month, weekly showcase artist, daily pick artist and homepage winner – the weekly showcase now goes exculsively to Major Label Artists.
    After putting very much work into the site, climbing in rank, connecting to artists and listeners, submitting music to labels,… I have sold 7 track in all in those four month and created about 14 free downloads. Listeners are mostly other artists who hope to promote themseves by showing up on my page. I made some friends and bought a couple of tracks, but I´d say SF is very much inbred, there are about a hundred artists who get signed all over again and again because the gain points to their labels. I even got some label submissions where artists recommended themselves not through their music but as “major point getters on this site”
    Playing the game on stereofame is all about points and rank and not so much about music, or that is what I feel after having been involved for 4 months.

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      Brian Hazard
      September 8, 2010 at 10:40 pm

      Thanks for the update! I rarely check in anymore. They must be in a tough spot. On the one hand, the major label artists provide credibility. On the other, they discourage indies from participating. Kind of like Ping!

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